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Running Windows games on a Mac Boot Camp Boot Camp is a familiar friend for veteran Mac users, a feature made possible by Apple’s switch from Power PC processors to Intel a decade ago. As with a PC, a Mac’s storage can be partitioned; running Boot Camp allows you to have Windows on one part of the drive and OS X on the other, letting you boot into either. But unlike a PC, you can’t simply hop into a BIOS, or pop a Windows installation disk into a USB port to install it.
Instead, you have to use Apple’s Boot Camp Assistant tool from within OS X to install Windows. Windows drivers are provided by Apple and before Windows can be installed, you’ll need to download these to a USB hard disk. It’s actually pretty nifty, since it allows you to restore your SSD or hard disk to its previous state with only a single click. You can install Windows 7, 8.1 or the technical preview of Windows 10 on Mac hardware. If you want to install Windows on an external drive, it’s best to format it with FAT, since Macs can’t write to NTFS drives, and Windows doesn’t work with HFS-formatted disks. Ensure it’s plugged in, and select it at the point in the Boot Camp process where it asks for you to choose a destination. You’ll be able to boot from it in the same way you would choose any alternative OS on a Mac, by holding down the Option (Alt) key after powering it on.
With Windows running on your Mac, you’ll have access to a far better selection of games, and they’ll likely perform better than on OS X. With Sim City on OS X, we had to turn all the graphics details down for smooth performance on the 2013 Retina MacBook Pro we mentioned earlier, but on the same Mac in Windows, the game looked better and ran faster.
But there are some things to be aware of with Boot Camp. You can’t install drivers for your video card or chipset from Intel, AMD or Nvidia, so you won’t get any performance updates that come with new driver releases unless Apple releases with new Boot Camp drivers.
And with a Retina display, the Windows desktop needs to be run at a higher DPI for everything to look right. That’s not really a problem for web browsing, but it might be when running games. We had some odd display issues running the Windows version of Civilisation 5, for example, on a Boot Camp partition, which were fixed when we switched to the native OS X code. Once Boot Camp is set up with whatever version of Windows you want, your Mac behaves and functions pretty much like a PC. You shouldn’t have problems running games, as long as you adjust the resolution and detail settings for performance that matches the hardware you have. Wineskin and Virtual Machines There are alternatives to Boot Camp if you want to run Windows software on OS X, but both have their limitations for gaming. A virtual machine requires a portion of the Mac’s resources to be dedicated to it, restricting the amount left for the host, and resulting in potentially choppy performance.
With 8GB of memory in your Mac, 4GB for a virtual machine and 4GB for OS X is a good split, but hardly ideal. CPU resources might be easily used up too, affecting performance in both the VM and OS X. There are a few options for virtual machine software. Is free but according to many tests, is the least efficient VM software. Isn’t free, but is a long-established name for Mac Virtual Machine software. It offers a nifty coherence mode where Windows applications appear in their own window on the Mac desktop, and it performs quite well, although you might want to turn off support for Retina displays.
It’s possible to run modern 3D games under Parallels, but performance isn’t going to measure up to what you get from Boot Camp. For older or lighter games, though, it should get the job done. Another option is VMWare Fusion, which says it offers access to a Mac’s 3D hardware, but once again, I didn’t have much luck running games in a Fusion virtual machine, bar casual titles. Virtual machines really aren’t designed for gaming, anyway. They’re much better for running word processing software or a Windows email client in OS X. So for gaming, I’d recommend just sticking with Boot Camp. There’s one more option for running PC games within OS X.
Using a collection of open-source software that mimics the Win32 API and Direct X, along with a wrapper that provides a minimal Windows environment to run games in, Wineskin does indeed work, albeit with somewhat reduced performance compared with a Boot Camp Windows installation. Bonus: it’s free. With the software installed you need to create a wrapper, which is basically a mini virtualised Windows environment.
The wrapper creates a folder structure that makes a game think it’s being installed on Windows. You’re faced with the slightly complicated decision of using the right engine for your game, and there are numerous variables to mess about with to improve both compatibility and performance. I didn’t have much luck with it at first, but eventually managed to get Skyrim installed, although it crashed after a few minutes. That doesn’t mean it won’t work on your Mac, or with other games, but mileage is going to vary and you may have to seek help. Handily, there’s a vibrant community sharing tips and techniques to get specific games working. But like a virtual machine, Wineskin won’t give you the very best performance your Mac is capable of either.
Once again, our advice is to just use Boot Camp for Windows games. The only disadvantage to going this route is the storage it uses, and the irritation of having to switch between operating systems. Page 4: Running Windows games on a Mac.
Windows On Mac:: Install MBP For Gaming In Bootcamp? Mar 17, 2009 Just wondering which one will be best for me to install on my MBP for gaming in Bootcamp. Pros & cons of each?
Similar Messages:. ADVERTISEMENT Aug 7, 2009 I run Windows 7 in VMWare for everyday use, but for gaming I want to use bootcamp. I am confused whether to install XP or 7. Reading this forum and googling, I knocked VISTA out of the equation, but since 7 is almost as nippy as XP, I am not sure. Jan 13, 2010 specs: 4GB ram Processor Speed 2.4 GHz Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT when i play dragon age in boot camp with windows 7 it gets insanely hot (200 f sometimes) and the game eventually quits.
This is really annoying cause it is such a great game. I even tried it on the lowest possible visuals and this still happens. Also when the machine is just sitting and i am not running anything at all it still heats up and stays hot. This does not happen in os x just in windows 7. When i had vista on boot camp i used to play some very graphic intense games on much higher visuals such as mass effect and fallout 3 and had no problems. It got hot but never unbearable to the point that the game quit. Sep 9, 2010 With some advice from this forum I've now setup vista on a bootcamp partition and have pointed parallels at this installation which all works well.
When I boot into vista I have the proper Radeon driver installed and can play games fine on max settings at the highest resolution, however if I try to run a windows game from Parallels in OSX it defaults to the Parallels video driver and 640x480 resolution. Is there any way of running games at full screen/full settings from osx or will I have to reboot into windows each time? Apr 26, 2010 I don't think this was an issue back then when I had only purchased my MBP. I am using a 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 15' MBP, with Mobility Radeon X1600 as my graphics card. I'm also on a 4 GB RAM. I'm using Leopard, running Mac OS X 10.5.8.
I'm using a 2.1 version of Bootcamp. I use Windows XP SP3. Basically, I know that my MBP will be hotter when playing games, but the heat issue wasn't an issue back then.
I don't know why it should be an issue now. I've run the test using a Parallels, for the same games: Majesty 2, Virtua Tennis 2009, Lineage II, Worms Armageddon. The games run very slowly in the Parallels, as expected, but I was only waiting for my Windows to crash after a little time of playing, but it didn't happen when I was using the Parallels. Also, I have no problem running any games in Mac itself, games such as Civilization IV, Fable TLC, Tomb Raider.
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Therefore, I think I'm justified to believe that the problem lies specifically with running games in bootcamp (my windows doesn't crash if I don't play any games). Which is of course, one of the few reasons I install Windows on a Mac, that is for gaming. Apr 12, 2009 A while back there was a thread on Archive and install ' Cant find it on a search ' but anyways. I'd like to do a clean install of the OS and bring over the applications needed, WHY? To me the system seems to be getting bogged down, mite be me also. Question is, is that I have dual boot installed to windows for gaming. Is the new install going to hose that?
And would I have to reinstall bootcamp and the whole windows thing again? I was also thinking maybe some program that would go through and clean out old unnecessary files, but that's the old windows in me coming out from years past.
Feb 3, 2010 when I get my new MBP (when they release them.sigh.), I intend on doing some moderate gaming on it. Things like MW2, Starcraft, Sims 3, Battlefield BC2, and some others I can't think of right now. My question is, if a game is available for both OSX and Windows, would it be better to get it for OSX, or Windows? I was wondering if I should have like all my games in the windows partition, or have ones that I can get for OSX separate.
Apr 10, 2009 I searched for a while trying to find the answer but did not find it. I just installed Vista Business via Bootcamp. I am not able to access the internet or anything. If I read the help stuff right I need to use the OSX install disk to install the drivers.
The problem is, I don't have the install disk. Is there any other way to get the drivers? Or am I just missing something easier? Jun 1, 2010 I have a 2010 15' MacBook Pro 2.4 i5 that I am trying to install Windows 7 on using BootCamp. I have installed a partition using BootCamp of 45GB but once it prompts me to insert the Windows disk, I insert it but after a few seconds the machine ejects the disk without ever mounting or seemingly recognizing the disk. I am trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit from a disk.
Can anyone offer any insight or help me figure out what the problem is? I have already tried rebooting and that doesn't work. Oct 3, 2010 my parents iMac 20' Core Duo is having issues. After bootcamp restarts the system I get an error on start up, a folder with a question mark shows up aswell as that prohibition logo How can I install Windows 7 on that machine? Feb 22, 2009 you cant use a windows xp sp1 disk to install windows xp onto your mac using bootcamp.What i wanted to know is if i partition my HD then format it to a recognizable format for windows installation disks, would i be able to install windows xp sp1 that way?or would the same principle apply as bootcamp and sp1 versions of xp are incapable of being installed on macs? Sep 3, 2009 Is there a way to install Windows on Bootcamp without it requiring you to enter the serial manually?
Oct 16, 2010 Well basically I tried to install Windows on Bootcamp, and long story short I have to completely reinstall OSX. When I put the Snow Leopard disc in, I try holding either Command-Option-Shift-Delete or just c, and neither methods work. It always tries to boot from the HD, in which case I just get the spinning circle for ever. Why wont it boot from the disc?!?!?
I also tried plugging in an external dvd drive, and it still wont work. May 6, 2009 I was trying to install Windows 7 via Bootcamp last night - all went well until Win7 started up - it wanted me to type a Username for the default user. However, I have a wireless keyboard & mouse, and these didn't appear to be recognised (I think I might have to pair them later??). I had to abort the installation by hard resetting. Any way around this, without buying a wired keyboard & mouse?!
Aug 30, 2009 do I have to install a 64 bit windows on my bootcamp mac pro partition? Will regular xp be unstable? Which windows 64 should I get? Sep 17, 2009 I've installed Windows 7 64x on my Macbook, now when I insert the Mac OS X disc that came with my Macbook I can install the Bootcamp64 file but when I insert the Snow Leopard disk to install Bootcamp 3.0 I can't install the Bootcamp64 or the 32 bit Bootcamp file.
I really want the 3.0 version so that I can have the read capability for the Mac partition in Windows. When I try to install the Bootcamp64 it comes up saying 'This installation requires elevated privilages. Launch the installer through setup.exe' When I run it through setup.exe however it comes up with the message saying that it Bootcamp64 is unsupported on this model. The same message would come up when I use the Leopard disks but I was able to bypass this by instaling it through the Bootcamp64 file found in the Apple drivers folder. Can someone help me out here I need to get Bootcamp 3.0 installed, I think there are some 3rd party apps that can give you HTFS read capability but I don't want use those, I've looked at some they are horrible so don't suggest it!! Also I'm not a 64x fanatic, I'm using Windows64x because you need it to use 4GB ram. Feb 4, 2010 I am trying to install windows XP via bootcamp.
But I am getting disk error right after first installation stage of windows XP. I was installing on Fat32 partition. Before this I was running windows 7 but I need to reinstall windows XP as I needed to use a software that only installs on windows XP. May 28, 2010 I have a 27' iMac with an i7 CPU, 16GB RAM, 2TB HDD. It is running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 under bootcamp. When I try to install bootcamp services it states 'to install bootcamp services you need to running Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista' I then downloaded bootcamp services 3.1 from here: URL It clearly states Windows 7 support, and is for X64.
Yet when I run it, it gives the same error stating I need to using Windows Vista or XP SP2. Does one install bootcamp services on a 27' iMac under Windows 7? May 16, 2010 Has anybody compared gaming under Win7 32 vs 64.
Im not that thrilled with the performance on Battlefield 2, but am currently running win 32. I wonder if 64 and its ability to use more RAM will help with gaming experience. Also, I've seen many threads on trying to update the Nvidia drivers, but not many responses on whether it helped much, considering what had to be done just to get the drivers updated.is it worth it. I wish Apple would address the outdated drivers. Sep 16, 2010 Is it possible to install Boot Camp 3.0 or higher on Windows 7 64-bit when dual booting with Leopard? What I've been reading suggests I need the Snow Leopard disc for Boot Camp 3.0+ and Windows 7 compatibility, but I only have the Leopard OEM disc.
Dec 11, 2010 1. New 11' macbook air. Set up partition for Windows XP SP2 using bootcamp. Prior to the Windows install I made the bootcamp driver install DVD per the instructions. Windows installed fine.
In Windows, went to install the bootcamp drivers from DVD I made and get this message: 'bootcamp requires that your computer is running windows 7' And then I can't install the drivers. Is there a limitation to running Windows 7 only?
Mar 31, 2009 im having problems getting the hardware drivers for the new MBP 15' 2.4ghz to install on windows. I've followed the instructions on the site.but when i put in the isntall cd it gives me two options. One being to install bootcamp/OSX (which i didn't want it to delete windows on that partition.)or it gives me the option to allow a macbook air to use my cd drive as it's own ( or something to that extent i've tried searching the apple site and on these forums on help to this issue but no soloution yet. May 6, 2009 I have an imac with Vista installed both on a Bootcamp partition and in Parallels. Sorry if this sounds ridiculous but could anyone advise instructions on installing Window 7 on my imac?
I don't want to mess it up-? May 11, 2009 I have currently XP installed in Boot Camp and I have Vmware fusion installed in OSX.
I can boot my XP partition via vmware fusion. Now the question is, when I boot the XP via vmware, I can boot from a Win 7 DVD and the installation starts.
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Can I just go on an install it in this way? The thing is that I'm not at home and only have a VNC session to my mac, so I can't install it in the classic way which requires a reboot May 31, 2009 Is it possible to install Windows on its own hard drive or with Boot Camp are we forced to install it on a partition on the startup OS X disk? I tried to install it on an empty 250GB HD with Boot Camp, but when the system restarted to install Windows, it asked me to choose a CD ROM and gave me the option of 1 or 2.
When I pressed either 1 or 2 nothing happens. It remains stuck on that prompt. By the way, I only have 1 CD/DVD ROM drive in my MacPro. Jun 24, 2009 I just bought the high end macbook pro 13' (2.53 GHz) today and I have a question about which version of windows to install on the boot camp partition. I saw a couple of videos on youtube showing pretty smooth performance of GTA IV on a MacBook Alu 13' 2.4 ghz model using BootCamp Windows Vista SP1.
I dont want to install Windows Vista SP1 just because of that video and I want to know which version could give me even better performance. Both official and unofficial windows versions of XP, 7 and vista are under consideration. I dont need windows for anything else, just for playing a couple of games.
Aug 23, 2009 I recently received My Macbook I bought without The Mac Restore disc. I plan on getting Snow leopard, but in the meantime I wanted to know If I can use bootcamp to install windows xp sp2 oem Cd that I purchased 2007 without the Mac disc? When I tried it displayed Mac os X cd as required. Aug 23, 2009 I've installed XP SP3 for school use on my new uMBP but for some reason I cant the bootcamp drivers to install, I click setup.exe and it opens and says 'The installer encountered errors before Bootcamp could be configured' Oct 13, 2009 I have an alu iMac, the kind that apple says could not support x64 bootcamp 2. Having done a bit of research, I followed the instructions on installing the x64 mac pro bootcamp drivers on this computer, and since then have been using Vista x64.
Now, with snow leopard, I'd like to upgrade to bootcamp 3, and once again I am faced with apple's 'this machine isn't supported'. Can someone point me in the right direction to get bootcamp 3 x64 drivers installed? Would I have to dig up the first gen mac pro x64 drivers? Is apple supporting x64 on the first gen mac pro?
Should I just install every single x64 driver off of the snow leopard installation disc? Jan 25, 2010 I trying to start bootcamp to install Windows Xp., but one window appear to ask me to format my HD.so I think I must to reinstall Snow Leopard again and after windows?